"There would be an eight-page form, and really other sites have successfully managed to make this work with one page, and that data quality is much better in one page, because it's easier to do.

VOA: standard.2010.02.24

Or are you going to say that that will only take us so far, and it's the conditions that are messed up, and we have to do something about the conditions to make it easier for people to make healthier choices?

还是认为上述做法见效甚微,问题关键在于混乱的饮食环境,我们应该先改善周遭环境,使得人们更容易作出更为健康的选择

耶鲁公开课 - 关于食物的心理学、生物学和政治学课程节选

Or are you going to say that that will only take us so far, and it's the conditions that are messed up, and we have to do something about the conditions to make it easier for people to make healthier choices?

还是认为上述做法见效甚微,问题关键在于混乱的饮食环境,我们应该先改善周遭环境,使得人们更容易作出更为健康的选择

耶鲁公开课 - 关于食物的心理学、生物学和政治学课程节选