After all, this argument really did show the immortality of the soul, why would he need to offer a further argument?

毕竟如果这个论证真正的,解释了灵魂的不朽，他为何还要提出进一步的论证呢？

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And perhaps unsurprisingly, what he does with his friends up until that moment is, he argues about the immortality of the soul.

也许,一点也不足为奇的是,直到生命的最后一刻,他都在和朋友们,探讨灵魂的不朽性

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If we grant that to Plato, he thinks we've got an argument for the immortality of the soul.

如果我们同意柏拉图这个观点,他认为我们就有了支持灵魂不灭性的论据

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The purpose of that dialogue, of that philosophical work, is to argue for the immortality of the soul.

该哲学著作中,所有对话的目的,是要论证灵魂不朽

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That's what we need, if we're really going to become convinced of the immortality of the soul.

这是我们需要的，如果我们要真正信服,灵魂是不朽的这种观点。

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And so, armed with a soul, as it were, there's at least the possibility of immortality.

因此，拥有一个灵魂，实际上，至少有永生的可能性。

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and where do they get the idea of the immortality of the soul?

那灵魂不朽的观点又是如何而来的？

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We've been looking at Plato's arguments for the immortality of the soul, and so far, I have to say I haven't found them very compelling arguments.

我们研究了柏拉图关于,灵魂不朽的论证，到目前为止，我要说的是,我发现这些论证并不是很有说服力。

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His fundamental concern is to try to argue for the immortality of the soul.

他最关心的是,能否证明灵魂的不灭性

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Do we now have the argument for the immortality of the soul?

我们现在能否论证,灵魂是不朽的？

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And so the heart of the dialogue consists of a series of arguments in which Socrates attempts to lay out his reasons for believing in the immortality of the soul.

所以这部对话录的核心,是由一系列的讨论组成的,其中苏格拉底试图摆出他的原因,让人相信灵魂是不朽的

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So we got the immortality of the soul after all.

所以我们最终得出灵魂不朽的结论。

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Now, in the course of this discussion, Socrates and his disciples argue about not so much the existence of the soul, but the question really is the immortality of the soul.

在这段谈话中,苏格拉底和他的学生们,讨论的主要不是灵魂存在的问题,而是灵魂不朽的问题

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What we need to really become convienced of the immortality of the soul even if we were convinced, is not the mere suggestion that the soul was around before our birth.

能真正说服我们,灵魂是不朽的,即使我们承认灵魂不朽，并不仅仅是因为,灵魂存在于出生之前这样的推测。

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Socrates believes in the immortality of the soul.

苏格拉底相信灵魂是不朽的

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And so, in addition to philosophical arguments for and against the existence and immortality of the soul, we end the dialogue with a quite moving death scene, one of the great death scenes, if we could call it that, of western civilization.

所以,支持和反对,灵魂的存在与不朽的论证,以一个感人至深的死亡场景告终,这简直就是西方文明史上,最伟大的死亡场景之一,如果我们可以这样说的话

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Well, Plato thinks what's going to follow is that we have some reason to believe in the immortality of the soul as, again, as we indicated last time, the picture is that the mind--the soul-- is able to grasp these eternal Platonic forms, the ideas.

柏拉图认为接下来,我们就有理由去相信,灵魂的不朽,就像我们上次指出的,它的中心思想是心灵,灵魂,可以去认知,这些柏拉图的型相,理念

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But one of the things that it can do, one of the things that sort of provides the underpinnings, as we'll see, for Plato's arguments for the immortality of the soul is the soul can think about--; well, here I'll have to introduce a word of philosophical jargon.

但是,在灵魂能做的所有事情中,我们会发现,有一件事可以说是,柏拉图论证灵魂不朽的基础,这件事就是,灵魂能够思考,在这里我要引入一个哲学术语

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