And then he got so far ahead of me that I couldn't see him anymore. Then I looked at the clock and it said 19.19.

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That is, more or less, what did happen in the Roman world and I don't see anything that's suggested it couldn't happen in the Greek world at the time we're talking about.

那就是,或多或少的,我看不到任何事物可以表明,在罗马社会发生的事情不会,在我们所讨论的这个时期的希腊发生

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Well, I just think that if he was making his own original idea and it was his idea to start with, then that would be the only situation in which I would see it being appropriate in any way because that way you couldn't make the argument that he was pressured, you know it's three-to-one or whatever the ratio was.

我只是认为，如果这就是他的本意,是他主动要求被杀的，只有在这种情况下,我才认为无论从哪方面来说都是恰当的,因为那样的话，就不能说派克是被迫的，毕竟当时是3对1的局面，派克不占优势。

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