And with some generals or with whoever else, homeland security, how did you go about settling these fights?

或者是和其他官员，关于国分歧家安全问题有分歧，你是怎么处理这些分歧呢？

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If you go to any coffee store in America and you ask them, "How many cappuccinos did you sell today?"

如果你去美国的任何咖啡店,你问他们，“你们今天卖出多少杯卡布奇诺？“

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