Again, the autonomous Greek polis Glaucon Adeimantus that Plato and Glaucon, Adeimantus and others would have known came to an end.
自治的希腊城邦,一如柏拉图,和其它人所熟知的,已走到终点。
Glaucon Or Socrates and Glaucon, who hope to rule ? by the powers of reason, speech, and argument?
或像苏格拉底和,所希望,统治要视理性,演说及辩论的力道而定?
At the very beginning of the dialogue, Glaucon we see Socrates and his friend Glaucon.
在对话的一开始,我们读到苏格拉底和他的朋友。
How can we begin Glaucon? the domestication of the spirited Glaucon?
我们如何开始,驯化意志型的?
Glaucon This is the challenge that Glaucon poses to Socrates.
这是,抛向苏格拉底的战书。
We want to note something about the particular people who inhabit this dinner party that Socrates and Glaucon have been promised.
我们想要点出,一些特别突出的人物,他们存在于,苏格拉底及,Glaucon,受邀的晚宴之中。
The rest of the book is to some degree about taming, asking the question whether Glaucon can be tamed.
本书剩下的部份,多少就是关于驯化,提问看,Glaucon,是否能被驯化。
The war-like Glaucon would preside over what Socrates calls a feverish city, honors, competitions and above all war.
好战的,Glaucon,将代表着,苏格拉底所谓的狂热之城,将荣誉、竞争与战争制度化的城市。
Adeimantus If Adeimantus, again, expresses the appetitive part of the soul, Glaucon represents the quality that Plato calls spiritedness, or thumos in Greek.
如果,表达的是灵魂的欲望,则,Glaucon,代表的即是质量,柏拉图所称的意志或是希腊文,Thumos,一字。
I should say, to my knowledge, we know nothing more about Glaucon and Adeimantus from history, but Plato put them into his dialogue.
我必需说的是,就我所知Glaucon,和,Adeimantus,两人,仅是历史中的两个角色,但柏拉图将他们放入他的对话录。
But the speeches of Glaucon and Adeimantus, you might say the circle around Socrates is effectively closed.
但,Glaucon,与,Adeimantus,的发言,你也可以说,那环绕着苏格拉底的圈子实际上是封闭的。
In the first place, they are young aristocrats, and Glaucon's desire to hear justice praised for its own sake indicates something about his scale of values.
首先,他们是年轻贵族,而,Glaucon,想听到,正义自我礼赞的愿望,点出他的价值格局。
We are forced to ask ourselves: ? What are Socrates and Glaucon doing there?
我们被迫自问:,苏格拉底和,Glaucon到底在那干吗?
Of the two, Glaucon seems to be the superior.
兄弟相比,Glaucon,似乎优越些。
Glaucon ? "Where are the luxuries?
说:,And,Glaucon,says,“乐趣哪儿去了?
Adeimantus Those are Glaucon and Adeimantus.
他们就是,Glaucon,和。
Adeimantus The two brothers, Glaucon and Adeimantus, whose exchange with Socrates occupies, for the most part, the rest of the dialogue from Book Two onward, the two brothers who, incidentally, are the brothers of Plato.
兄弟檔,Glaucon,和,和苏格拉底的对谈,占据了大部份的对话,从第二部起所有对话,这对兄弟,碰巧是柏拉图的兄弟。
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