All we're in right now is, perhaps in existence of that with regard to consciousness, maybe some other things, we don't yet see how to explain it.

我们现在的处境就是,也许关于意识存在的一些东西,或其他什么的,我们现在还不知如何解释

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I believe the attempts to establish the existence of a soul, an immaterial object, the house of consciousness separate and distinct from the body, I think those arguments fail.

我认为,无论是试图证明,灵魂作为一种非物质的东西,而存在,还是证明心灵,这个意识的处所,独立于肉体,我认为这些论证都不成立

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