On the one hand, the optimists might say, "Even when we throw in the extra interaction effects, even the negative interaction effects, the overall nature of the human condition is positive.

一方面，乐观主义者可能说，“就算我们把另外的相互影响，就算把负面的相互影响算进去，人类处境的总体本质还是积极的。

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It could be that in thinking about the nature of the combination we're led to see that in certain ways the combination-- the interaction effects--are negative, are bad ones.

可能在考虑这种组合的本质时,我们看到了再某些方面这种组合-,相互影响，是负面的，是不好的。

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