I think it is one of the things that we can be proud of, but my view is that has to be informed consent and I think one of the problems with the way the police service has operated up to now is that the discussion about tactics and strategy has been an internal discussion in the profession and I think the police service needs to be better at having that discussion with the public to whom they are accountable."
VOA: standard.2009.04.21
So, all right. Good. Are there any other defenders who say it's just categorically wrong, with or without consent?
很好,有没其他人要辩护的,谁认为就是绝对错的,不管有没征得同意?
The question we're left with, the fundamental question we still haven't answered is what then becomes of consent?
剩下的就是最基本的问题,我们仍未解答,究竟同意是什么?
Take our founding documents " the Declaration of Independence the Constitution all men are created equal that we are endowed with inalienable rights that all legitimate government grows out of consent and the like.
举我们的建国文件,“独立宣言,“宪法“来看,所有人生而平等,我们与生俱来不容剥夺的权利,这是所有合法政府,都认同的概念。
If you take newborn babies-- It's very hard to do research with newborn babies actually because of the consent procedure and everything, so most of this work is done in France, where they have no laws at all.
如果你去找些新生儿,由于知情同意书以及其他的问题,研究新生儿实际上是非常困难的,因此大部分的研究都是在法国进行的,因为法国并没有任何与此有关的法规
Locke says that legitimate government is government founded on consent and who, nowadays, would disagree with him?
洛克说合法政府是建立在同意的基础上,而现如今又有谁会不同意他的观点呢?
So if he came up with the idea, that's the only kind of consent we could have confidence in morally then it would be okay.
所以如果是他自己提出的,除非他是在这种情况下的同意,才能确信说,道德上没问题。
What is wrong with Locke's account of how private property can arise without consent?
洛克关于私有财产,无需他人同意就能产生这个观点,有何错呢?
But still, it must be with his own consent, I.E. The consent of the majority, " giving it either by themselves, or through their representatives."
但是这仍须得到他自己的同意,即得到大多数的同意,由他们自己或选出的代表所表示的大多数同意“
Why does an act of consent make such a moral difference, that an act that would be wrong taking a life without consent, is morally permissible with consent?
为什么征得了同意,就能在道德上如此不同呢,没有征得同意就杀人,在道德上是不允许的,征得同意就是允许的吗?
You don't think that even with consent it would be morally justified?
你认为即便是派克同意了,这在道德上也是不正当的?
I want to hear now, finally, from those of you who think even with consent, even with a lottery, even with a final murmur of consent by Parker, at the very last moment, it would still be wrong.
我现在想听听,是否有人认为,即便是征得了同意,即便是有了抽签,即便派克最终还是答应了,杀死派克依然还是错误的。
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