But it takes a special talent to play an invisible guitar.

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But, and this will be the crucial point, notice Socrates should have continued the soul is invisible in that sense.

但是，这一点很重要，注意苏格拉底应该在这个意思上,继续阐述灵魂是无形的。

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Harmony is indeed invisible in sense Number 1, you cannot see it with your eyes, but for all that, it can be destroyed.

和声用无形的第一种解读方式理解，确实是无形的，你看不见它，但是它可以毁灭。

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Let's call someting invisible not only it can't be seen, not only it can't be observed, but it can't be detected at all.

让我们把一些不仅是看不见的,不仅是观察不到的，而且是完全检测不到的，东西称为无形的。

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but it's not invisible if we mean definition No. 2 can't be sensed. Can't be observed.

但如果取第二个定义它就不再无形2,无法感知，不能观察。

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But if we give 4 while we read invisible as meaning utterly undetectable, it's no longer so clear to me that 5 we can give him 5.

但是如果我给出,把无形理解为完全检测不到，我认为,就不能给出。

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They are invisible like the forms, but unlike the forms, they are destructable.

它们像形式那样无形，但是不同与形式的是它们可以毁灭。

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But is it still invisible if by invisibility we mean can't be detected?

但是如果无形是指不能检测,灵魂还是不是无形呢？

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But if invisible things can't be destroyed, the soul can't be destroyed.

但如果无形的东西不会毁灭，那灵魂就不会毁灭。

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But maybe that's not what Socrates means by invisible.

但是这可能并非苏格拉底,所说的无形的意思。

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They are not seen but aren't invisible.

你看不见他们，但是他们不是无形的。

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Now the answer seems to me, the only answer I can imagine Socrates and Plato are giving at this point is to say, look, I need a different 3 definition of invisible, not 2 but 3.

我认为答案是，我所能想到的唯一答案是,在这点上苏格拉底和柏拉图,给出的答案是，我需要一个,无形的不同定义，不是2而是。

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