"I have been up on Obama for a long time. People in Chicago have been knowing Obama for the longest time, because him and his wife had been doing a lot of good things, trying to help out the neighborhoods."

VOA: standard.2010.02.24

in the minds of military expert, they probably been doing more good than harm.

但对于军事专家来说，这个可能就是好处多余坏处了。

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