Debbie Stothardt,spokeswoman for the Alternative ASEAN Network, says there is a need to have "substantive dialogue and engagement" with ASEAN leaders on regional issues.

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Secretary Clinton said the U.S and Russia will continue to have disagreements, but added the treaty is an example of deep and substantive cooperation on a matter of vital importance.

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"The people want to engage not just in a ritual or ceremonial way but actually in a substantive way where we get to talk about the various policies that affect our daily lives."

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