Lipman says it is no secret that many Russians do not consider the Caucasus to be a part of the "real" Russia and prefer not to think about events there.

VOA: standard.2010.04.01

The hope of all those who took part in both the DNA tests and the funeral procession is that a databank will be created of the real Venetian, who risks becoming extinct.

VOA: standard.2009.11.14