"Having the Saudis working with you makes a big difference, and having the Saudis working against you also makes a big difference and it's better to have them working with you,".

VOA: standard.2009.06.02

"That's how I see writing." "It's not so much that it makes your identity, but that it helps you see it, and it helps you be able to define it better and understand it better.

VOA: standard.2010.06.15