"I am not against him talking to Chavez,". "But I think he ought to talk to Chavez in a cold and distant way because Chavez openly, constantly attacks the United States."

VOA: standard.2009.04.20

"My experience has been that the president would be eager to hear from lots of different voices in this argument so that he can build conviction on what the United States ought to do,".

VOA: standard.2009.10.16