I think when you stretch it out over three years, because the program does go further, you get closer to that number,"

VOA: standard.2009.03.10

And here my favorite program book so far has been the Iliad, because I think you get the full spectrum of human experience."

VOA: standard.2010.05.12

However,I do not think that you can expect any great new thunderbolts of just and fair elections because we still have the same machinery in place that has not been fixed at all."

VOA: standard.2009.10.28