"I feel like we made a really great difference one thing it really drives home is that we all need each other, one way or another.

VOA: standard.2010.03.26

But Ritz, who has both undergone and conducted SERE training, says there is a great degree of difference between training and actual interrogations, where harsh techniques may be combined and carried out for longer periods.

VOA: standard.2009.04.17