The two cabinet secretaries say the United States still wants to deter, defeat and dismantle the al-Qaida terrorist network, as President Obama said in his statement on strategy for Afghanistan and Pakistan in March.

VOA: standard.2009.10.06

So Collins suggests that the poem in Exodus 15 is celebrating and preserving a historical memory of an escape from or a defeat of Pharaoh and that the drowning image is used metaphorically as it is elsewhere in Hebrew poetry to describe the Egyptians' humiliation and defeat.

所以Collins，指出在《出埃及记》15中的诗中,是对逃脱或者打败法老统治的这一历史性时刻的庆祝,溺水这一画面被赋予象征意义，就像犹太诗中,经常出现描写埃及人被打败被侮辱的场景一样。

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He says American forces will be able to defeat the Taliban and al-Qaida in Afghanistan as they made significant gains against insurgents in Iraq if the president sends enough troops and other resources to do the job.

VOA: standard.2009.09.22