"The present situation is where religious extremists - whether they be the Taliban or whether they be one of the very many other jihaidst groups that were early on nurtured by the Pakistan army - they are pretty much beyond control now,".

VOA: standard.2009.05.05

Because both of the things are beyond the scope of people to either really effectively to describe or in any way to control.

因为这两个概念都超出了,人类真正能够描绘和控制,的范围。

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