"If someone says I should eat fruits,vegetables, whole grains,fish,nuts, and avoid processed foods, sugary beverages, and foods with trans fats or high in salt, that's actually much simpler, I think,than chasing all of these numbers."

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But also, switching out the trans fat in another kind of fat doesn't change the calories at all.

同样地,用其它的脂肪来代替,反式脂肪酸不会改变食物的总热量

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And other companies have followed suit, but not all of them, and there's still as I said, a lot of Trans fats shows up in things.

其它厂商紧随其后 但并非全部,正如我所说的,食物中还含有不少的反式脂肪

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For example, Frito-Lay, before they really had to because of bad publicity, took out all of the Trans fats in their products and that was -they're the largest snack manufacturer in the world so that was a pretty significant advance for the healthiness of their foods.

例如,菲多利,为免受到舆论谴责,他们在政策发布前,就已剔除了其所有产品中的反式脂肪,他们是世界上最大的零食生产厂商,这对他们产品的健康程度也是一大提升

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