Again, the autonomous Greek polis Glaucon Adeimantus that Plato and Glaucon, Adeimantus and others would have known came to an end.

自治的希腊城邦,一如柏拉图,和其它人所熟知的,已走到终点。

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Adeimantus And that is where the brother, Adeimantus, joins in.

这也是其兄弟，加入论战的时刻。

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So the question, that question is posed, that objection is posed by Adeimantus, you remember, at the beginning of Book IV.

依循那个理性推断的话，所以问题被呈现出来，异议由，Adeimantus，提呈出来，记得吗？就在第，IV，册一开始的地方。

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And Adeimantus appears to accept that response, I forgot we are concerned with the happiness, the justice of the whole.

而，Adeimantus，却显然接受那个回答，我忘了我们关心的是快乐，整体的正义。

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The first stage proposed by Adeimantus is the simple city, what he calls the city of utmost necessity.

由，Adeimantus，提出的第一个阶段是,简约之城，他所谓的本需之城。

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Adeimantus If Adeimantus, again, expresses the appetitive part of the soul, Glaucon represents the quality that Plato calls spiritedness, or thumos in Greek.

如果，表达的是灵魂的欲望，则，Glaucon，代表的即是质量,柏拉图所称的意志或是希腊文，Thumos，一字。

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I should say, to my knowledge, we know nothing more about Glaucon and Adeimantus from history, but Plato put them into his dialogue.

我必需说的是，就我所知Glaucon，和，Adeimantus，两人,仅是历史中的两个角色，但柏拉图将他们放入他的对话录。

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But the speeches of Glaucon and Adeimantus, you might say the circle around Socrates is effectively closed.

但，Glaucon，与，Adeimantus，的发言，你也可以说,那环绕着苏格拉底的圈子实际上是封闭的。

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Rather, Adeimantus' concern, and he gives a very revealing image of what he takes justice to be, is with an image of self-guardianship, or self-control.

反而如，Adeimantus，所关心的，且他还描绘出一幅非常具启发性,关于他所认为的正义意涵画面，那是一幅自我守护的画面，或说自控。

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But I want to start with what is one of the grand themes of the Republic, it is indicated in Book II by Adeimantus' speech about self-control.

但我想从《理想国》中的,一个重要主题开场，在第，II，册,由，Adeimantus，关于自控的谈话中所引出。

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And again, recall this is the theme raised at the beginning of Book II by Adeimantus, who puts forward an idea of self-control, or what he calls self-guardianship as his goal.

不要忘了这个主题是在,第，II册一开始时由，Adeimantus，所提出，他带进了自控的概念，或他称为作为个人目标的自我守护。

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Adeimantus Those are Glaucon and Adeimantus.

他们就是，Glaucon，和。

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Adeimantus The two brothers, Glaucon and Adeimantus, whose exchange with Socrates occupies, for the most part, the rest of the dialogue from Book Two onward, the two brothers who, incidentally, are the brothers of Plato.

兄弟檔，Glaucon，和，和苏格拉底的对谈，占据了大部份的对话，从第二部起所有对话，这对兄弟，碰巧是柏拉图的兄弟。

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