And for me it's fun because I may not know the novel that you end up picking, and so it is a kind of challenge for me to take a novel that you've chosen and come to grips with it myself It may be one that I know.

我也觉得很好玩,因为我可能不知道你们最后选择的小说，所以对我来说,认真对待你们选的一本书很有挑战性,可能是一本我知道的书。

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So literary can sometimes be very abstract like mathematics, and therefore, if someone says make me a movie, showing me what the square of minus two means that is going to be a challenge.

文学有时候也可以很抽象,像数学，因此如果有人说,给我做一部电影吧,给我展示一下负二的平方,那将是一个挑战。

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For you or for me, it is not a challenge to walk around these cubes, or the audience or somebody from different points of view and recognize that they are really the same person.

对于我们这样的人，换个角度绕场行走，围着某个观众或者其他人去走,会认识到他们是同一个人。

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