Since that which grasps the ideas or forms must be eternal or non-physical-- it's eternal, it's immortal.

同时能认知理念,或者型相的事物必须是永恒的或非现实的,所以灵魂是永恒的,不朽的

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Two-- that which is eternal or non-physical can only be grasped by the eternal and the non-physical.

前提二,永恒和非现实的事物只能被,永恒和非现实的事物所认知

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In practice, when firms try and have these agreements, which are not contracts, to try and produce joint monopoly output, what else goes wrong?

现实中,公司想要达成这样的协议,而非合同,想要维持垄断产量,还会遇到什么问题呢

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It would seem to give us three, the conclusion we want-- that which grasps the ideas or the forms must be eternal or non-physical.

我们似乎就得到了第三条,也就是我们要的结论,能认知理念,或者型相的事物必须是永恒或非现实的

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So Platonic metaphysics gives us premise number one-- that ideas, forms, are eternal and they're non-physical.

柏拉图的形而上学论给了我们前提一,理念或者型相是永恒的,非现实的

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So Socrates has what he wants, once we give him premise number two, that the eternal, non-physical can only be grasped by the eternal, non-physical.

所以如果我们同意他的前提二,苏格拉底就得到了他想要的,前提二说永恒,非现实的事物,只能被永恒,非现实的事物认知

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Well, I've emphasized the non-physical aspect, and I've emphasized as well that they're not changing.

我已经强调了非现实的方面,并且我也强调了他们的不变性

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Is it or isn't it true that those things which are eternal or non-physical can only be grasped by something that is itself eternal and non-physical?

我们是否可以说,那些永恒,或非现实的事物只能被,本身是永恒和非现实的其他事物认知呢

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There are views where mind and body are just two different ways of looking at the same underlying reality where the underlying reality is neither physical nor mental.

有一些观点认为,心灵和肉体是审视同一,现实基础的截然不同的方式,这种现实基础既非肉体也非心智

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They've got to be grasped by something non-physical--namely, the soul.

他们只能被,非现实的事物认知,比如灵魂

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On the one hand, even if it were true that the soul must be non-physical in order to grasp the non-physical forms, wouldn't follow that the soul will survive the death of the body.

一方面,即使,灵魂必须是非现实的,以便来认知非现实的型相,也没法推导出,灵魂可以在肉体死亡之后存活

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It could be that even though the general claim, "It takes one to know one" Is false, the particular claim, "Eternal, non-physical can only be grasped by the eternal, non-physical," Maybe that particular claim is true.

即使一般来说,同类互知这个观点是错的,但它的特例,也就是永恒的非现实的东西只能被永恒的,非现实的东西所理解,这可能是对的

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If that which grasps the ideas or the forms must be eternal/non-physical, well one thing we're going to get is, since that which grasps the forms must be non-physical, the soul is not the body.

假如能认知,理念或者型相的事物必须是永恒,非现实的,那么我们能得到的结论是,既然能认知型相的事物必须是非现实的,而且灵魂并不是肉体

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Even if there is an immortal soul-- Sorry. Even if there is a non-physical soul that's part of me, we don't yet have any reason to believe that it's one of the fundamental building blocks that were being recycled.

即使灵魂是不灭的,不对,即使有个非现实的灵魂是我的一部分,我们并没有任何理由去相信,灵魂是被循环利用的,基本组成部分之一

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If we give him number two, it's going to follow that whatever's doing the grasping-- call that the soul since the soul is just Plato's word for our mind-- if whatever's doing the grasping of the eternal and non-physical forms must itself be eternal and non-physical, it follows that the soul must be non-physical.

假如我们承认前提二,那么接下来就是不管是什么事物在认知,姑且称之为灵魂好了,因为灵魂是柏拉图对我们心灵的称呼,假如能够认知永恒,和非现实型相的事物本身必须是,永恒和非现实的,那么灵魂必须是非现实的

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