It's like a craft. I had my little tape and my little scissors, my little project, my craft project. So, stories are a craft.

被结构，被建造，我手里有这个小胶带，一把小剪刀，一个任务，一个手工品，所以故事就像手工作品。

耶鲁公开课 - 1945年后的美国小说课程节选

Somebody else owned them, and discovered them, and demanded that they get paid, and ended up negotiating with the company, and we got a kicker.

其他人买了这些债券，发现了这个问题，然后要求偿付，到最后以和公司协商了事，然后我们得到了一个促销品。

耶鲁公开课 - 金融市场课程节选