But beyond that, there is the fact that for the Greeks that early and always--by the way it remained so, the notion of justice is directly connected with a polis.

除此之外,另一个事实就是,从始至终,无论早期还是晚期的,希腊人对正义的观念,都是直接和城邦有关的

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The way I understood it originally was that that was the whole issue is that the cabin boy was never consulted about whether or not something was going to happen to him, even with the original lottery whether or not he would be a part of that, it was just decided that he was the one that was going to die.

就我的理解，从始至终,一直困扰我们的争端就是,从没有人去征得过派克的意见,没人告诉他即将有什么遭遇，就连最初提出的抽签,他是否有份参与，他们径直决定，他应该是被牺牲的那个。

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