So magic in a pagan system, Kaufman claims, is a way of getting around the gods, circumventing the capricious will of the gods and demons.

考夫曼宣称，异教系统中的法术，可以用来应付众神,能使反复无常的神谕和恶魔的诅咒失灵。

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But there are a variety of things about people who can communicate from the dead or ghosts or seances or what have you.

但仍有很多关于,有人能和死人,或鬼魂,或者降神会交流之类的传言

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He permits a real character like Satan to interact with a merely allegorical or symbolic character like Sin. The effect for Johnson - and who can say that this is -- that Johnson is wrong?

他允许一个真实的角色如撒旦与仅仅是寓言中才出现的,或只具备象征的意义的人物如罪恶之神互动,谁又能说约翰逊是错的呢？

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Now, you can bet when these folks came and consulted the priest and could you please put us down on the list, we want to consult the oracle, the priest said sure have a beer, let's talk about your hometown, what's going on out there.

你能想到,当人们到此请示神谕,会对祭司说,您能把我们的名字写在表里吗,我们想询问神谕,祭司说有啤酒就行,我们先说说你的家乡,那儿发生了什么事

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