And what things Aristeon and the Presbyter John, disciples of the Lord used to say. For I did not suppose that the things from the books would aid me, so much as things from the living and continuing voice."

还有亚力斯帝安和牧师约翰，及主的门徒说过什么，因为我觉得,书里的东西对我的助益，不如人口述相传的东西“

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But if,per chance,there came,also, anyone who had followed the Presbyters," the elders, "I made inquiry concerning the words of the Presbyters, what Andrew or what Peter had said, or what Philip or what Thomas or James,or what John or Matthew, or any of the other disciples of the Lord said.

但如果碰巧有谁，曾跟随过长老“，即长者，“我就会问他们长老之言，安得烈之言，彼得之言，腓力，多马，雅各布，约翰，马太，或主的其他门徒之言。

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