Well, I'm not going to follow the details of this argument, but the basic idea goes back to Descartes.

我不打算对这个论证进行详细讨论,只是说一下笛卡尔的基本思想

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And so, Descartes' attempt to establish the distinctness of the mind, the immateriality of the mind, on the basis of this Cartesian thought experiment, I think that's unsuccessful.

所以,笛卡尔试图,用他的卡式思想实验来证明,心灵的独立存在性,和非物质性,我认为这种尝试是失败的

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I think the sort of skepticism I mean arises from what one might call and what often is called modernity not to be confused with Modernism, an early twentieth-century phenomenon, but the history of modern thought as it usually derives from the generation of Descartes, Shakespeare, and Cervantes.

我所说的怀疑主义,产生于我们通常说的现代性,不要与20世纪早期的，现代主义搞混了，现代性是现代思想的历史,始于笛卡尔，莎士比亚和塞万提斯一代。

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If that's right, then maybe the conclusion should be "Well, you know, yeah, the Cartesian thought experiment shows that there could be a world in which there are minds that are not identical to bodies.

如果事实如此,那么结论该是,怎么说呢,笛卡尔的思想实验表明,可能存在某个世界,其中存在着,不同于身体的心灵

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