He wants his novel to be like that living butterfly, but the threat is always that it will be more like the aquamarine. And I want to suggest to you that the aquamarine has an even darker personal significance to him.

他希望他的小说就像蝴蝶那样鲜活，然而它却总是,倾向于像海蓝宝石，我希望你们注意到,海蓝宝石对于他个人而言还有更加阴暗的意义。

耶鲁公开课 - 1945年后的美国小说课程节选

If people don't know which foods are healthy well then it argues for education--but notice that that was almost the lowest ranked thing that people said.

要是人们不知道哪些食物是健康的,这关乎教育问题了,然而值得注意的是,这是大家提及最少的一个原因

耶鲁公开课 - 关于食物的心理学、生物学和政治学课程节选

It's a kind of realism, of course. Nevertheless, there it is in front of us, and again I call you back to that quotation. What are we going to see when we look at the fiction? Do we see what's in front of us?

当然这也是一种现实主义，然而，这些就在我们眼前，我想再次将你们的注意力集中到那句引语上，当我们阅读这,部小说时，什么情景会呈现在你眼前呢，我们能看到什么吗？

耶鲁公开课 - 1945年后的美国小说课程节选