They are different from the groves and streams we have down here, but they don't seem necessarily to differ, I submit, in their degree of physicality.

与地上的树林和溪流不同，但在物化的程度上，我得说，它们似乎没什么不同。

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That's true, but that would suggest it doesn't matter if they slack off.

说得没错,但这和偷懒没什么关系啊

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