And to some degree, he even seems to speak, he seems even more characteristically modern than Machiavelli.

在某种程度上，他说的，甚至比马基雅维利,更具有典型的现代性。

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For all of his tough talk, Hobbes takes justice and the rule of law very seriously, far more seriously than, for example, does Machiavelli.

在他那些强硬的措辞中可看出,霍布斯对正义和法律的态度，始终是极为严谨的，比马基雅维利的态度要严谨得多。

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But you might say, Hobbes goes further than Machiavelli.

但是霍布斯比马基雅维利想得远。

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