We continue to ask the same questions that were asked by Plato Machiavelli Hobbes and others.
我们持续提出相同的问题,就像柏拉图,马奇亚维利,贺伯斯,及其它人当时提出时一样。
Raise the objection, that's Plato raises the objection in the voice of Cebes but Socrates, on Plato's behalf, never answers the objection.
提出反对观点是柏拉图,替赛贝斯提出的,但是苏格拉底,从没回应过这个反对观点。
these are at least among the questions that Socrates or Plato, the author of the book, deliberately poses for us to consider.
就是这些问题,这些至少就是苏格拉底或柏拉图,本书作者,所特意提出让我们思考的问题。
These are sort of flailing away at different ideas but another way of doing--an older way is proposed by Plato, who viewed laughter as a form of bonding against a common enemy.
我现在说的都是各种猜想,但从另一个角度看,一个古老的角度,这是由柏拉图提出的,他认为笑是一种巩固感情的形式,对抗共同的敌人。
They don't necessarily represent in a systematic fashion Plato's worked out axiomatic views about the nature of philosophy.
它们不一定是很系统的,不是说柏拉图已经,提出了一套系统的哲学自然理论
Now, the objection I've just raised is not the objection that Plato raised in the Phaedo, but he does raise a different objection.
我提出的反对观点并非是,柏拉图在斐多篇里提出的反对观点,但他确实提出了个不同的反对观点。
That's why it will be worth taking some time to ask ourselves what about Plato's objections then.
这就是为什么值得,花时间研究柏拉图提出的反对观点。
I'll take every view that Socrates puts forward as a view of Plato's, though I'll typically sort of run back and forth sort of in a careless fashion.
我会把苏格拉底提出的,所有观点都当做是柏拉图的,尽管我会随意地,将两者交替着说
But let's just suppose--look, Plato argued the soul was simple.
但我们就这样假设,柏拉图提出灵魂是简单的。
Here is then the next argument that Plato offers.
接下来是柏拉图提出的另一个论证
In many ways Aristotle there offers, as does Plato, a certain kind of critique of the modern or even the ancient democratic theory of freedom, which is living as one likes.
亚里士多德在很多方面所提出的和柏拉图相似,都是一种对现代,或甚至古代自由民主理论的评判,也就是过一个人想过的生活。
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