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In fact, the vast majority of citizens in even the platonically just city will not necessarily have platonically just souls.
事实上，大部份的公民,就算是在柏拉图式的正义之城中,也将不尽然会有柏拉图式的正义灵魂。
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All this stuff, hungering after pleasure, all this stuff gets in the way of thinking about the Platonic forms.
所有这些,还有对享乐的追求,所有这些都妨碍人们思考柏拉图式的型相
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The platonic idea of justice concerns harmony, he tells us, both harmony in the city and harmony in the soul.
柏拉图式的正义观是关于和谐，他说到，那是关于城市的和谐与灵魂的和谐。
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Plato's idea is that if we start doing enough metaphysics, we can see there must be this realm of Platonic ideas, Platonic forms.
柏拉图的观点是,如果我们对形而上学有充分的研究,就必能看到柏拉图式的,理念或是型相组成的世界
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The world is constantly rolling-- this is a Platonic expression-- rolling between one form and the other.
这个世界就这样不断的左右摇摆,这是种柏拉图式的表达,型相间的来回摇摆
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In many ways, the Crito, in some respect, is the platonic dialogue about piety.
在很多角度看来《克里托篇》于某些方面，是柏拉图式的敬神对话。
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And so we don't have a very good grasp of the Platonic forms.
我们无法对柏拉图式的型相有深入了解
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We can say today that this university is a direct ancestor of the platonic republic of Plato's Academy.
我们可以说现今这间大学的直系原型,即是，“柏拉图学院“的,柏拉图式理想国。
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We see Socrates addressing, the only time in any platonic dialogue, an audience of this size.
我们看到苏格拉底自辩的对象，其它柏拉图式语录的听众人数，根本与其无法匹敌。
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Even the Platonic just city will have to cultivate warrior citizens who are prepared to risk life in battle for the sake of their own city.
就算是柏拉图式的正义之城,也都还需要培养战士,一群准备好以生命作赌注,来捍卫其所属城市的公民。
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how can you have a platonically just city if most people in it, certainly most people of the auxiliary class are deprived of the pleasures ? and the goods that we desire?
如何建构一座柏拉图式的正义之城,如果大部份居住其中的人，尤其是那些后备阶级,所渴求的愉悦,与动产都己被剥夺？
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So the number two, the numbers, three, whatever it is, whatever they are, are these Platonic abstract entities that don't exist in space and time.
因而,数字2,数字3,不管它们是什么,至少它们都是不存在于时空中的,柏拉图式的抽象实体
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All of these things are, as philosophers nowadays call them, Platonic forms.
以上这些,被当今的哲学家称作柏拉图式的型相
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It's the soul that thinks about the Platonic forms.
是灵魂在思考柏拉图式的型相
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So, we've got this nice Platonic picture where Plato says, "All right. So the mind can grasp the eternal forms, but it has to free itself from the body to do that."
我们这有一个柏拉图式的场景,柏拉图说,心灵可以认知永恒的型相,但是它必须先从肉体中解脱出来
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In other words, no Platonic cities in speech.
也就是说谈话中不带柏拉图式的城邦论点。
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That's, as I say, the Platonic picture.
这就是柏拉图式的理念结构
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That's the Platonic take on mathematics.
这是柏拉图式对数学的理解
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It's another abstract Platonic form.
它是另一种抽象的柏拉图式的型相
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The move from the younger we could call him Aristophanic Socrates the Socrates who again investigates the things aloft and under the earth to the later what we could call platonic Socrates.
从较年轻时，可称之为,亚里斯多芬尼斯式的苏格拉底,调查上天下地的事物,到稍后转变成所谓柏拉图式的苏格拉底。
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