It started not really as a planned system not planned by any government.

出于经验才产生的机构,它并不是在一个计划好了的系统中生成的。

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We've been building a kind of, like an organization, like a Marshall plan, but thinking about how do we reach out to other countries and build an energy community.

我们在建立一种,一种组织机构，就像马歇尔计划，考虑我们应该怎样,和其他国家建立联系,从而建立能源共同体。

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