But Ian Hacking, being a good historian, thought that someone must have had some concept of probability going before even if they didn't quote it as a number the way-- it must have been in their head or in their idea.

但是这位优秀的历史学家伊恩·哈金认为,一定有人在更早时候就用过概率这个概念,即便他们没有用数字来表述,但他们一定有过类似的想法

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people that you know, haven't drawn since school or think, "Oh, no, I can't do anything creative."

还是自上学开始就没画过画的人，或者有这样想法的人，“哦，不，我做不了有创意的事。”

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So I'm kind of experimenting with that idea,

我似乎有过那样的想法，

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