It's like a craft. I had my little tape and my little scissors, my little project, my craft project. So, stories are a craft.

被结构，被建造，我手里有这个小胶带，一把小剪刀，一个任务，一个手工品，所以故事就像手工作品。

耶鲁公开课 - 1945年后的美国小说课程节选

Each group needed a justification for saying how interesting the task was, but they each had a justification.

每一组都需要一个理由来说明,这个任务有多有趣，但他们各自有自己的理由。

耶鲁公开课 - 心理学导论课程节选