The confusion, the mistake I think people are making when they make this argument, the mistake I think they're making is this.
我觉得人们提出这个论点的时候,产生的困惑和错误,我认为他们犯的错如下。
and then sort of synthesize concepts and create a cohesive argument,
还要整合概念,提出一个贯穿始末的论点,
We have to ask oursleves when Socrates puts his argument forward, which of these you have in mind?
我们要问问自己当苏格拉底,提出自己论点的时候,他脑中的是这三个中的哪一个?
When Plato writes his Republic and devotes Book Ten, as I'm sure most of you know, to an argument in effect banishing the poets from the ideal republic, part of the argument is that poets are terrible imitators.
当柏拉图写《理想国》和《第十卷》的时候,你们肯定都听过这两部著作,他提出了一个一个论点,要把诗人从理想国中驱逐出境,他提到,诗人都是拙劣的仿造者。
That's been an argument that some commentators have made.
这是一些评论家所提出的论点。
metaphysically there're different ways of trying to pose the set of issues that I've begun to talk about.
从形而上学来看我们有,不同的方法来提出,我刚才说的论点。
And maybe that explains why Plato then goes on to offer yet another argument.
也许这揭示了为什么柏拉图,继而又提出了一个新的论点。
One comes across it periodically. Within the last year, a member of our law school here put forward this very argument and said he thought it was a good one.
就在去年,我校法学院的一名成员就提出了,同样是这个论点并加之褒奖。
Although I am skeptical about that claim, I am going to continue giving it to the person who makes this argument, because I'm not so prepared to admit that you can't picture being dead.
虽然我本身对这个说法表示怀疑,我还是要继续,依照提出的这个论点,因为我还没有准备好承认,人无法想象死亡这件事。
This argument shows up in various places.
这个论点在很多场合被提出。
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