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So right now,let's imagine two people with Napoleon's personalities, complete personalities,one of them in Michigan,one of them in New York.
那么现在试想一下，有两个人拥有拿破仑的人格，完整的人格，一个在密西根，一个在纽约。
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Well,I suppose another possibility is to say, at least another possibility worth mentioning, is to say they're both Napoleon.
我想另一个可能性会是，至少这种可能性值得一提，那就是他们两个都是拿破仑。
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And he'd never,rather like Louis-Napoleon, had hardly ever been in Paris before; he really hadn't,I don't think,ever.
他不像路易·拿破仑,以前很少到过巴黎,他是从来没去过
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Napoleon, who was always considered to be kind of a dwarf, a midget, really wasn't at all.
拿破仑被人们公认为是个矮子,夸张点叫侏儒 实际上并非如此
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Napoleon or somebody said, "The size of my ego is one meter."
拿破仑或是谁说,"我的身高就是一米"
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So imagine that there's right now somebody in an insane asylum in Michigan who's got the thought,I am Napoleon.
因此想像一下，现在有个家伙,在密西根一家精神病院，认为自己就是拿破仑。
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Yet,the personality theory,the objection says, would tell us that he is Napoleon because he's got the beliefs of Napoleon.
然而，人格理论，会告诉我们他是拿破仑,因为他拥有拿破仑的信念。
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So here we've got the continuing,evolving over time-- this is all taking place in France-- the personality of Napoleon in France.
所以这是持续的，随时间进化的…,这都是发生在法国-,法国拿破仑的人格。
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A Napoleon who was in one place in France and is now simultaneously in two places in the U.S.
曾在法国某地的一个拿破仑,现在同时出现在美国两个地方。
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Okay,so here was Napoleon back in France with his memories and his beliefs and so forth and so on.
这是在法国的拿破仑，拥有他的记忆,信念等等的东西。
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The body of Napoleon is not this body and to be Napoleon, you've got to have Napoleon's body.
拿破仑的肉体不是这具，而要成为拿破仑，你必须拥有拿破仑的肉体。
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If you want to say,no,no,no,those memories are illusions, it must be because you don't think he's really Napoleon.
假如你说，不，那些记忆都是错觉，那是因为你不认为他是真的拿破仑。
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Now,we imagine in our new version of the worry somebody with Napoleon's personality over here in New York.
现在我们再设想另一个疑虑,拥有拿破仑人格的某人出现在纽约。
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Saying that one of them is Napoleon and the other one isn't seems very hard to believe.
说其中一个是拿破仑,另一个不是拿破仑，似乎都难以令人信服。
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The claim is not now we've got two Napoleons who are, of course,not identical to each other.
它并不是说有两个，样子不一样的拿破仑。
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So there was Napoleon in the 1800s conquering Europe and being crowned emperor, being defeated by the British,being sent to exile on,was it Elba,right?
拿破仑在1800年代征服欧洲,被加冕为皇帝，被英军击败，然后被放逐于厄尔巴岛？
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If it's got Napoleon's memories,beliefs,desires,goals, and so forth and so on,wouldn't we say it's Napoleon?
如果他有拿破仑的记忆，信念，欲望，目标，诸如此类的东西，我们难道不认为他是拿破仑？
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To be Napoleon,you've got to have the very same overall personality, which is a very big,complicated set of beliefs and desires and ambitions and memories.
要成为拿破仑，你必须拥有完全一样的整体人格，那是一整套庞大复杂的信念,欲望，抱负和记忆组合。
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All right,saying that Napoleon is in Michigan but not New York doesn't seem very attractive.
说拿破仑在密西根,而不在纽约，这似乎不太有吸引力。
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And I said I was willing to entertain the possibility that this is all Napoleon.
我说过我乐意接受,这些都是拿破仑的可能性。
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But now we've got people that are not Napoleon but they've got Napoleon's personality.
但现在有人不是拿破仑，而他们拥有拿破仑的人格。
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Imagine that--back to this earth-- this Napoleon type of case happened all the time.
我们回到地球上-,假设这种拿破仑案例时常发生。
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Because the personality theory,after all, said if you've got Napoleon's personality,you're Napoleon.
因为人格理论始终说，如果你拥有拿破仑的人格，那么你就是拿破仑。
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One is that during the Second Empire, which was that regime of Napoleon III that lasted from 1852 to till he was really rounded up by the Prussians in 1870.
一个是法国当时正处于法兰西第二帝国时期,在拿破仑三世的统治之下,这段时期始于一八五二年,直到一八七零年他被普鲁士军队所俘虏
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That's the thought that the body theorists are trying to elicit in you when they offer these Napoleonesque counterexamples.
肉体理论家给你摆出这些，拿破仑式的反例,是想引导你们得出这个想法。
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Some foe of the personality theory could say, Okay,imagine that this guy in Michigan does have Napoleon's personality.
一些人格案例的反对者会说，那么试想一下,这个密西根家伙确实有拿破仑的人格。
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So the personality theory,follow the personality, is wrong if we say neither of these guys is Napoleon.
所以人格理论所遵循的人格特性，是错误的，如果我们说两者都不是拿破仑。
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David Smith So,of course,we can all agree David Smith, despite thinking he's Napoleon,is not Napoleon.
因此，显然我们能够一致同意，尽管认为自己是拿破仑，但他不是。
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Well,that's what we could say,but we can't say that until we decide he's not Napoleon.
我们是可以这么说，但只在我们认为他不是拿破仑时。
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