And today, if you look at the cell phone and the PDA and the PC and notebooks, desktops, there's a pretty clear distinction among those various product categories.

今天，如果看手机,掌上电脑，个人电脑，笔记本电脑，和台式电脑，就会发现很明显的差别,存在于不同的产品之间。

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I barely know how to use a cell phone let alone a computer, you know,

我勉强会用手机，更不要说电脑了，你知道，

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And for Problem Set 0, too, those of you might think Scratch kind of imploding since I was 6, well then we'll hand you some of these little logic boards which are a variety of real world sensors you can connect to your Mac or PC and push yourself a little further with interactions, with the real world.

对于习题集0也是如此,有些人可能认为从我6岁开始就不怎么用Scaratch了,那么我给你一些小的逻辑板,它们就是各种各样的真实世界的感应器,你可以用它们来连接到你的手机或电脑上去,和现实世界做进一步的互动。

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