In order for a more or less round plate to remind me of roundness, Plato says, I have to have already met perfect roundness itself.

如果一个或多或少,有点圆的盘子能让我想到正圆,柏拉图认为,我必须已经见过完美的圆本身了

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because now his TV show is made over there and he's perfect, I think.

因为现在他的电视节目在这边播出了，我认为他做得很完美。

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And I didn't think my contry was perfect.

我不认为我的国家完美。

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I think that's also why Barth chose to write this story in the perfect short story form. And that form is also given to us in Lost in the Funhouse, on page 95, when we get the diagram of Freitag's Triangle.

我认为这也是为什么巴斯选择用完美的短篇小说的,模式写这个故事的原因，这个模式在,《迷失在开心馆》里也有体现，在第95页，就是Freitag三角的图解。

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