One who concerns himself with it more than the subject is an artist. But remember we are still talking merely of the raw material of poetry.

更多的考虑形式而不是内容的是,艺术家，但是记着我们还是谈论着,诗歌的原始形式。

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Can you tell us about one of your favorite artists?

你能跟我们讲讲你最喜欢的艺术家之一吗？

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