And people who have the constrained vision think that our instincts, our inclinations, our basic nature is immutable, accepted.

执有人性受约束的观点的人认为,我们的本能，欲望，我们的本性是永恒的，唯有接受。

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We have the thought that these things are eternal, and indeed, beyond change, in contrast to the empirical world.

我们认为这些事物是永恒的,而且,与现实的世界相比,它超越了变化

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People who hold constrained vision of human nature, believe that human nature cannot be changed; it's immutable-- we have certain instincts, we have certain inclinations.

认为人性受约束的观点的人，相信人性无法改变;,它是永恒的，我们有一些本能，有一些欲望。

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It would seem to give us three, the conclusion we want-- that which grasps the ideas or the forms must be eternal or non-physical.

我们似乎就得到了第三条,也就是我们要的结论,能认知理念,或者型相的事物必须是永恒或非现实的

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So Platonic metaphysics gives us premise number one-- that ideas, forms, are eternal and they're non-physical.

柏拉图的形而上学论给了我们前提一,理念或者型相是永恒的,非现实的

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So the Platonic metaphysics says quite generally, if we're thinking about the ideas or the forms, the point to grasp is they're eternal; they're non-physical.

柏拉图的形而上学论说得非常笼统,假如我们提到理念或者型相,要点就是他们是永恒的,是非现实的

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So we must ourselves be eternal."

那么我们自身就必须是永恒的

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If that which grasps the ideas or the forms must be eternal/non-physical, well one thing we're going to get is, since that which grasps the forms must be non-physical, the soul is not the body.

假如能认知,理念或者型相的事物必须是永恒,非现实的,那么我们能得到的结论是,既然能认知型相的事物必须是非现实的,而且灵魂并不是肉体

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If we give him number two, it's going to follow that whatever's doing the grasping-- call that the soul since the soul is just Plato's word for our mind-- if whatever's doing the grasping of the eternal and non-physical forms must itself be eternal and non-physical, it follows that the soul must be non-physical.

假如我们承认前提二,那么接下来就是不管是什么事物在认知,姑且称之为灵魂好了,因为灵魂是柏拉图对我们心灵的称呼,假如能够认知永恒,和非现实型相的事物本身必须是,永恒和非现实的,那么灵魂必须是非现实的

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