That's what we need, if we're really going to become convinced of the immortality of the soul.

这是我们需要的，如果我们要真正信服,灵魂是不朽的这种观点。

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And then we'll see that he's going to use his principle to convince us or try to convince us that the soul is imortal, is indestructible.

然后我们会看到他打算,利用这一原理说服我们,或者试图说服我们,灵魂是不朽的，是不可毁灭的。

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Do we now have the argument for the immortality of the soul?

我们现在能否论证,灵魂是不朽的？

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What we need to really become convienced of the immortality of the soul even if we were convinced, is not the mere suggestion that the soul was around before our birth.

能真正说服我们,灵魂是不朽的,即使我们承认灵魂不朽，并不仅仅是因为,灵魂存在于出生之前这样的推测。

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Well, Plato thinks what's going to follow is that we have some reason to believe in the immortality of the soul as, again, as we indicated last time, the picture is that the mind--the soul-- is able to grasp these eternal Platonic forms, the ideas.

柏拉图认为接下来,我们就有理由去相信,灵魂的不朽,就像我们上次指出的,它的中心思想是心灵,灵魂,可以去认知,这些柏拉图的型相,理念

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