We posit--or the fans of souls posit-- the existence of souls so as to explain something that needs explaining about us.
我们 或者灵魂论的拥护者们假设,灵魂是存在的,这就能解释一些我们自身不解的东西
Given the thesis about recycling, then, we have reason to believe the soul will continue to exist after we break.
如果循环观点是正确的,那么我们有理由相信,灵魂会在我们消亡之后继续存在
The philosophic city is introduced as a metaphor to help us understand the education of the soul.
哲学之城的导入,是要作为一种隐喻,协助我们了解灵魂的教育。
The soul, we now say, based on the argument from recollection, the soul is one of our prior parts.
我们现在讲灵魂,在源于记忆的论证的基础上,灵魂是我们之前的一部分。
Since what we want to know is whether the soul is immortal, how do we know it can't break.
既然我们想知道,灵魂是否不朽,我们怎么知道它会不会破裂呢。
Plato's going to argue once we understand the sort of metaphysical nature of the soul, we'll see why it couldn't be destroyed.
柏拉图会为我们证明,一旦我们理解了灵魂的哲学本质,我们就会明白为什么不能摧毁灵魂
So even we grant the soul is invisible as well, maybe the soul also is a invisible thing that can be destroyed.
所以即使我们认同灵魂也是无形的,也可能灵魂是无形但是,可以毁灭的东西。
But we all know that people do fall in love, but souls would allow us to explain that.
但是我们都知道人会坠入爱河,而灵魂能够帮助我们解释这一点
Even if there're no souls, we don't have to say that the key to personal identity is the sameness of the body.
即使没有灵魂的存在,我们也不用,肯定人格同一性的关键在于,同样的肉体。
He didn't actually convince me of that, but suppose we thought souls are simple, and we think simple things can't split.
他并没有说服我,但让我们假设灵魂就是简单的,并且简单的东西无法被分裂。
All right. We've been talking about arguments that might give us reason to believe in the existence of an immaterial soul.
我们已经讨论了,那些让我们相信,灵魂存在的论证
It's one of the parts that makes us, that goes up into making us up, goes into making us up.
灵魂是组成我们的部件之一,它帮助构建了我们,它构建了我们
Perhaps the argument shouldn't be, "We have to believe in souls because no mere physical object could reason."
也许论证不应该是,我们必须相信灵魂,因为所有的物理对象都不能推理
That's a little bit like the case we worried about when we started thinking about the soul view,right?
这就有点像我们刚开始研究灵魂观点时,担心的问题了,对吧?
We'd sort of have some reason to believe in the soul until we sort of see what next argument comes down the road.
我们可能会有理由相信灵魂的存在,直到我们沿着这个方向探究到其他论证的存在
And then if 5 is true that the soul is really invisible, we are entitled to conclude 6 The soul can't be destroyed.
然后如果5正确,即灵魂确实无形,我们有资格得出6这个结论6,灵魂不会毁灭。
Simmias says we can't conclude that the soul is indestructible because we should not believe the subconclusion 4 invisible things can't be destroyed.
他说我们不能得出结论说,灵魂不朽或几乎不朽或其他什么,因为我们不该相信,4这个结论4,即无形的东西不可毁灭。
I don't think we got any good reason to believe that soul existed before we were born.
我认为没什么好的理由让我们相信,灵魂在我们出生前就已存在。
So let's return now to the question, "How might we argue for the existence of the soul?"
现在让我们再回到这个问题上,我们怎样论证灵魂存在
Well,this is all what we would say as soul theorists if we think souls can split.
这就是我们认为灵魂可分裂时,作为灵魂理论者的说辞。
So maybe that's why we need to believe in souls in order to explain free will.
或许我们需要相信灵魂的理由就是,为了便于解释自由意志
Maybe we need to appeal to the soul in order to explain what animates the body.
也许我们需要诉诸灵魂,来解释,什么赋予肉体以生命
Maybe at the end of the day we will decide we need to believe in souls.
或许最终,我们会认定我们需要相信灵魂
Exposure to the things that participate in the forms may nudge our minds or our souls in such a way that at that point.
接触到一些有关形式的问题,使我们的思想或者灵魂,在某一点开始考虑这个问题。
Maybe we need to posit the soul in order to explain ESP; maybe we need to posit the soul in order to explain near-death experiences.
或许我们需要假设灵魂存在以探讨第六感,或许我们需要假设灵魂存在,来解释濒死体验
And so, Socrates' friends ask him, how can we be confident that the soul will survive the death of the body and indeed be immortal?
于是苏格拉底的朋友们就问他,如何才能使我们确信,灵魂会在肉体的消亡中幸存,并且是真正的永生的呢
And the crucial question, presumably, is, "Should we believe in the existence of a soul?"
而最为关键的,也许是,我们应该相信灵魂是存在的吗
If he can convience us that the soul is not like harmony of the body, maybe there will be some sort of problem for the physicalist.
因为如果他能说服我们,灵魂不像是身体的和声,那么就会给物理学家留下些问题了。
So if the argument's going to be, "We need to posit the existence of a soul in order to explain creativity," Again, that just seems wrong.
所以如果这个论证要说,我们必须假定灵魂的存在,才能解释创造力,再一次,这看起来是错误的
But at least it would give us some reason to believe in the soul.
但至少它给了我们一些相信灵魂存在的理由
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