But if we say that, then we're back to saying that somebody who's asleep isn't really alive.

但如果这么说，我们就回到了,说睡觉的人并不是活着的讨论上。

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So, it's something like the life of a person that, when we say, when there are people who are inclined to say, that being alive per so is valuable, presumably what they mean is being alive as a person per se is valuable.

所以这差不多就是人的生活，当说到，当人们说到，活着本身是有价值的，我们便假设它的意思是,作为人活着的本身是有价值的。

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