All this stuff, hungering after pleasure, all this stuff gets in the way of thinking about the Platonic forms.

所有这些,还有对享乐的追求,所有这些都妨碍人们思考柏拉图式的型相

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It's the soul that thinks about the Platonic forms.

是灵魂在思考柏拉图式的型相

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