It was the first time I actually I've never got into a church in my kind of modern Presbyterian church in Madison, you know in Wisconsin where I grew up.

那真的是我第一次感受到,我从来都没有在,麦迪逊去过现代的长老会教堂，你们知道吧，我是在威斯康星洲的麦迪逊长大的。

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