But frankly, I'm convinced, insofar as I'm convinced of anything, that if one doesn't live by that, nothing of any interest is going to happen.
不过,坦率来讲,我相信,或者说,我确信,如果一个人不相信这一点,那么他的艺术创作只会平淡无奇。
If you talk to the artists, they're probably from all different countries,
如果你和艺术家交流,他们可能是来自不同国家的,
and in fact in art and in religion, if I don't recognize my pain and confusion and suffering, it is not, in my words, self-vific.
事实上,在艺术和宗教中,如果我不面对我的痛苦,疑惑和苦难,那么艺术就不是,用我的话讲,有现实意义的。
Many people chose sculptress because they thought, well if she's a sensitive, artistic woman maybe she's a sculptress.
许多人选择了雕刻家,因为他们觉得,如果她既感性又有艺术感,也许她会是雕刻家吧
If we're focused on the work of art in and of itself, on the poem, we obviously in thinking about what it means need to come to terms with three kinds of evidence."
将注意力放在艺术作品本身或者说诗本身上,很显然,如果我们想考虑它所表达的意思的话,我们必须对三种证据作出让步“
And that's something that we'll talk about from time to time in the class, but it's something you'd get more out of,for example, if you studied an art history class, or if you studied a literature class that talked about some of these issues in later European times.
这些我们在课堂上,会经常讨论,但如果你参加其他课,会学到得更多,比如艺术史课程,或者文学课,也会讨论欧洲各个时期的宗教问题。
If you imagine your artwork is living, it can also die.
如果你将艺术品,视为活生生的话,那么它也可以是死的。
Or if I decided to become an artist or a scholar or a beach bum or a farmer, how much better off or worse off would I have been?
如果我决定成为一名艺术家或学者,一个流浪汉或一个农夫,我会更幸福还是更不幸?
Welles presented it. He'll say no. It's a work of art. I find it exhilarating. So if you are an artist, you can always have an happy life dedicating yourself to your art.
威尔斯这般表达,他将对之说不,这只是个艺术活,我觉得它令人愉快,因此如果你是个艺术家,你就总能拥有,快乐的生活,全身心地投入到艺术中去。
If you want to dance, sing, politics, photography, art, anything is here.
如果你想跳舞,唱歌,搞政治活动,摄影,搞艺术,什么都在这儿。
And so that for me to see art that represents that confliction or confusion can be actually the kind of grace of identification that allows me to feel that I'm not alone in the world perhaps.
所以,在我看来,如果看到艺术,能够呈现矛盾与疑惑,实际上他们,带给了我一种认同的美丽,让我感觉,自己在这个世界上并不孤单。
In the arts generally people who teach you the arts are going to shudder if you would say oh I interesting in this because it's such fun, because it tells you what life is like or tells you a story and then you'll repeat the story.
艺术一般来说,如果你对教你们艺术的人,说,哦,我对这个很感兴趣,因为它很有趣,因为它告诉你生活是什么,或说它告诉了你一个很好的故事,他会很震惊。
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