Right. Well, I think that pluralism properly understood has respect for people with the secular position, with the Christian position.

是的，我认为经合理理解的多元主义,尊重持世俗立场的人们，尊重持基督教立场的人们。

普林斯顿公开课 - 人性课程节选

There has been a slippage from Christian spirituality into something like a pagan naturalism, and it's a world in which all things are physical.

它们从基督教的精神性,滑向了一种异端的类似自然主义的东西，它们描绘的世界里万物都是物质的。

耶鲁公开课 - 弥尔顿课程节选