And if any of you here are nodding in agreement at these sentiments, that's not such a good sign.
如果在座有同学,点头同意这些人的观点,这可不是一个好迹象。
to give permission to that person to follow you home.
来表示你同意这个人跟你一起回家。
So you don't think the idea of implied consent is strong enough to generate any obligation at all to obey the government?
就是说你认为默认同意的观点,并没有强到,足以让人有服从政府的义务?
Well, the Spartans take them very seriously and they say okay we'll stay and fight at Salamis.
斯巴达人认为他们是来真的,于是才同意驻守萨拉弥斯
Not everyone was onboard with the idea that Israel should be ruled by a king.
并不是每个人都同意,以色列应该有一个君王来统治。
And everybody would agree that is an ionic compound.
所有人都会同意,它是一个离子化物这一观点。
There is also the constant, creative tension around experimentation and making sure everyone in the organization feels it's better to experiment, fail and then move on and experiment again than to not do that.
而且,在技术试验上,他总会持续迸发出创造性的火花,在这之前,马克会去确认,团队里的每一个人是否同意试验,如果第一次失败,我们会继续,而不是停止试验。
Suppose we were to agree, all right, strictly speaking these people didn't die.
假设我们同意,严格说来这些人没有死
Here, I've convinced some people, though David Swensen really disagrees with me.
在这里,我已经说服某些人,尽管大卫,斯文森,很不同意我的观点。
So, people like Hobbes thought, "Well, we need a really strong state."
同意霍布斯观点的人认为,"我们需要一个十分强大的国家"
I think most people who have served in the White House would agree with that characterization and try to run their lives that way.
我想很多在白宫,工作过的人都会同意这种描述,而且会尽力,以这样的方式经营自己的生活。
Similarly, he denies that slavery is always or only appropriate for non-Greeks.
同样地,他不同意奴役永远,或仅会是非希腊人。
Are there people who think who want to take up Kathleen's consent idea and who think that that would make it morally justified?
有没人赞同凯思琳这个“征得同意“的观点,有谁认为,派克同意,道德上就是正当的?
Now, how many agree with that argument, agree with the libertarian argument that redistribution for the sake of trying to help the poor is wrong?
有多少人同意自由主义者的这一驳论,认为为了帮助穷人,进行财富再分配不对?
Now, is there someone who can explain, those of you who are tempted by consent, can you explain why consent makes such a moral difference?
认为派克同意就属正当的,有没人能解释一下,为什么派克同意了,在道德上就有所不同呢?
How many disagree with the utilitarian approach to law and to the common good?
有多少人不同意,功利主义在法律及公共利益方面的做法?
Remember at the beginning, Dudley proposed a lottery, suppose that they had agreed to a lottery, then how many would then say it was all right?
还记得一开始时,达德利曾提议抽签吗,假设他们都同意了抽签,有多少人认为,这样就可以接受?
How many agree with it?
有多少人同意?
Another tangible way of understanding who won the battle and who didn't, is we winners, because we own the field, we can pick up the casualties, take care of those who can be saved, bury the ones who have been killed; we don't have to ask anybody's permission.
还有一种显而易见的,判断谁胜谁败的方法,我们占领了战场,我们就是胜方,我们清理战场,处置死伤者,医治能救活的人,埋葬阵亡的人,我们不需要征求任何人的同意
So, you have to imagine that this thing started with these guys back in their camp and the other army back in its camp, and they both have to agree that they want to have a battle, for a battle to take place, and they will have picked a place that is flat where they can do what they're doing.
所以事情是这样的,你得想象一下,一群人各属于不同阵营,他们都同意开战,为了进行战斗,他们需要挑选一块平地,以供双方的方阵摆开架势
Is there anyone who thinks that even the consent of Parker would not justify their killing him?
有没有人认为,即便是派克同意了,也不能为他们的谋杀行径正名?
And if we add consent, then more people are willing to consider the sacrifice morally justified.
如果有征得同意,更多的人就愿意认为,这在道德上是正当的。
And if they had done a lottery where everyone consented that someone should die and it's sort of like they're all sacrificing themselves to save the rest.
但如果他们每人都同意抽签决定,谁应该牺牲,就像是所有的人都同意牺牲自己来救其他人。
Sometimes, when the ideas of political philosophers are as familiar as Locke's ideas about consent, it's hard to make sense of them or at least to find them very interesting.
有时当一些政治哲学家对同意的看法,与洛克非常相似时,都让人很难理解,或至少不会觉得很有趣。
Most of us agree then, pleasure is intrinsically valuable; pain is intrinsically negative, unvaluable, has anti-value.
多数人都同意,快乐本身是好的;,痛苦本身是消极的,没有价值,有反价值。
All right, let's begin with those who disagree.
好,我们先从那些不同意的人开始。
But I recognize that this is something that reasonable people can disagree about.
但我想有些人可能,会不同意我的看法
And some consider the White House Chief of Staff as co-president, although I think Joshua disagrees with that, or the president's gatekeeper, that is, I think he agrees.
一些人认为,办公厅主任可以和总统平起平坐,虽然我认为约书亚不同意此观点,还有人说是总统的看门人,我认为这种说法他会同意。
And how many disagree with that argument?
有多少人不同意这个观点?
But over a lifetime, I think I would think almost a complete majority here would agree that they would rather be a human with higher pleasure than be that rat with intense pleasure for a momentary period of time.
但是就一生而言,我觉得,在场绝大部分人都会同意,他们更愿意做拥有更高级快乐的人,而不是只图一时快乐,做那只享受一时快感的鼠。
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