So, interdependence is one thing but what's maybe more interesting is that simple contact with other people.

互相依赖是其中一股力量,但更有趣的另一股力量是,和他人的简单接触。

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So, this is the flip side.

这是另一股力量。

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The way to do terrible things--One way to do terrible things is to lose yourself so you're not an individual anymore but another way to do terrible things is so that the person you're doing it to isn't an individual.

使人变坏的其中一股力量,就是抹杀自己的个性，你不再是自己,而使人变坏的另一股力量,就是抹杀你行恶的对象的个性。

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